Article :: An Interview with Watts Humphrey, Part 24: Mary Shaw Meetings and the Ashton-Tate Story

In this transcript of an oral history, Grady Booch interviews SEI Fellow Watts Humphrey. In Part 24, Humphrey talks about his first days at SEI, his regular with Mary Shaw, and why Ashton-Tate failed because they chose to believe their own mythology rather than focus on reality.

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